Friday, October 27, 2017

Sixth Port Day in Apalachicola - Waiting for a Weather Window

This blog will chronicle our (Pat and Patty Anderson's)
cruising adventures on the Great Loop!

DAY 209 - October 26, 2017

This morning we woke up on Daydream in the Wefings Marine shop! Marc came by in the morning bearing gifts: some lightly dressed sashimi, some smoked tuna and some smoked mullet! No matter what else happens, we will eat well!

There was no sightseeing today. Today was all about getting Daydream ready to cross the Big Bend on the plane. Yesterday the trim tabs were fixed and the Stingray3 fin was installed, but the new 11 pitch prop had not arrived. We have been running with a Michigan Wheel 14-3/8 x 15 prop since Harbor Springs, and we could not get Daydream on the plane with this prop for love nor money. Putting the throttle down simply resulted in pushing a huge bow wake and maybe getting to 9 miles per hour. We have been quite anxious to see if what Marc is doing is going to change this for us.

 After coffee and toast, we could only wait for the new prop to arrive. I wrote my blog post, and we continued to look at the weather sites, mainly SailFlow. It  looks like Monday might now be the best day, but we will reassess that on a daily basis.

The new Honda aluminum 15 x 11 prop arrived on the FedEx truck shortly after lunch, and Spencer put it on the BF-150. Now everything that could be done has been done, short of re-powering with a new 200 hp outboard.

Stingray3 fin and new Honda aluminum 11 pitch prop
Now there was nothing left to do but to get out on the water to see if we had succeeded. Spencer hooked the trailer up to the pickup, and drove Patty and me back to the Battery Park launch ramp in Apalachicola. Marc joined us shortly, and we put Daydream back in the water, and we did our tests.

My assessment is that it was a qualified success. Watch the iPhone video that Patty took from the shore as we passed and please let me know what you think, either in a comment or with the contact form (I can reply by email if you use the contact form).


Marc, Spencer and I took her out for the first test. We got the speed we were looking for. Downstream at wide open throttle with a 2.5 mph current pushing us, we were knocking at 20 miles per hour. At 5,200 RPMs we were running at 13 - 15 mph. But I say it was a "qualified success" because Daydream is still very heavy, and it does not just pop up effortlessly and gracefully on the plane like it does when it is lightly loaded and propped for the San Juan Islands and Strait of Georgia. 

Marc commented that he had never seen a C-Dory 25 that sat so low in the water. Getting on plane was a delicate balance of managing the trim tabs, the engine attitude and the RPMs. Handling at speed is not nearly as responsive as it should be. By analogy to the animal kingdom, Daydream is still a slug, but a faster slug!

For the second test, Spencer removed the Stingray3 fin, since Marc wanted to be sure that the fin was not actually reducing the speed. We went out into Apalachicola Bay and satisfied ourselves that it wasn't. In fact, it was running just a little slower. So we came back in and Spencer reinstalled the Stingray3. 

Second guessing ourselves, we wondered if we should have gone to a 13 pitch instead of an 11 pitch prop, which would have given higher speeds at lower RPMs if it worked at all. Back in our home waters, we run in the mid teens at 3,800 - 4,200 RPMs. But that ship has sailed, and this is the prop that we will use to cross the Big Bend of the Gulf of Mexico and finish our Loop.

At least our crossing time will be half of what it would have been with the 15 pitch prop. And we are not going to worry about how much fuel we use for the crossing!

8 comments:

  1. On the bright side, as you burn off fuel, you will get lighter... as you get lighter, you will get faster or you can ease the throttle back a bit. 700 pounds of fuel makes a difference. Wishing you all the best with this next portion of your trip. Plus, you'll have a prop that will be better for Lake Powell.

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    1. Thanks, Jim. Anxious to get back home and lighten this puppy up a bit!

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  2. Looks like you are making speed, and heavy on plane, but you aren't pushing the huge bow wave. Definitely making a wake. It would be really interesting to run it across a scale the way you are loaded now, to see what the actually weight is. As to the 13" prop, how close are you to your WOT range, and how much wiggle room do you have there. The lower RPM might drop you below the WOT minimum range speed. Looks like you have decent speed now, and reasonable control-ability to get you across the bend. As Jim noted, as you burn off fuel, the stern will lighten considerably, and that will effectively transfer some weight forward, reducing some drag, and hopefully get you a bit higher in the water. (Is the video recorded on a full fuel load, half or near empty?) That could make a difference. Hopefully the test runs were on a topped off tank. Here's wishes for calm seas on your crossing. Harvey/SleepyC

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    1. Thanks, Harvey. Full fuel load. Also, Marc said probably not going as fast in the video as we had been either.

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    2. Also, boat with half full fuel tank and no people was weighed on the scale on the TraveList at Harbor Sprints in Michigan, and weighed 7,500 pounds.

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  3. Lighten the load. You're so close to the end why not leave a bunch of stuff in Apalachicola and pick it up on the way home.

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    1. That is not a half-bad idea, we will give it some thought. Certainly could leave the air conditioner, and probably the bin of service parts, and a bunch of other stuff...

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  4. On our 25 and our current22, we carry 3 props--15" 13" and 11". Changing props only takes a few minutes and easily done in the water. Are you sure you have a 15" x 11"--most of the 11" pitch props are larger--from 15 3/8 to 16" diameter--and it does make a little difference.

    In your video you were planing. I have a photo of our 22 when I was running a 25 and Marie was following, that same attitude running about 15 mph.

    The key is what was your WOT at the highest speed. It it was 6000, then you may be slightly underpropped. Since you achieved 20 mph- 2.5 for current = 17.5 mph and I assume that was WOT--probably close to 6,000 RPM. If running 5200 and 13 to 15, you are not straining the engine, and should be fine.

    MartyP makes a good point--not sure exactly what you would take off.. You could pull the water tank down to 1/4, and only carry a gallon of extra water--fill up on the other side when you get fuel. Ditch the air conditioner? 30#?--it may be hot again. Generator--no, extra motor--no. Plus although it is a scenic drive along the beach back to Pensacola or Tallahassee, it is much slower than the freeway.

    You are also going to find your RPM at 7mph are much higher, and may want to switch back to the 15" prop, if you want to continue the displacement speed for the rest of the trip.

    Monday looks OK right now--Tues, maybe slightly better. But either way, you should have the wind and wave behind you, with little swell. Also as you go down the coast, watch the waves until you get down to the ICW where there will be protection. There are some interesting places to stop along the way...

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